Review by Jon Roland
One of the most remarkable things about this book is that it has not received more
attention. It is being read by anti-establishment political activists, conspiracy and UFO
buffs, and, of course, by people who work for the federal government, perhaps wondering
what happens to the author.
It is possible that many people who see the cover think it is just another book by just
another UFO investigator. But the author of this one was chief of the U.S. Army's Foreign
Technology Division, whose main job was to reverse-engineer alien artifacts recovered from
the crash near Roswell, NM, in July, 1947. Short of having the President coming on
national television to admit everything people suspect about a government cover-up of UFOs
and aliens, this is about as close to that as we are likely to get anytime soon.
Part of the problem is that most of what Corso has to say only confirms what has already
been leaked out. He even describes, in some detail, the program of controlled release of
information and the manipulation of the entertainment media to condition the people to
prepare them for full disclosure. That program seems to have worked better than hoped,
because it seems that now, if full disclosure occurs, most people won't pay attention, and
the rest will only have confirmed what they already think.
There is little revealed in this book that hasn't come out before as leaks or rumors. The
main thing about it is who it was written by, and the implicit endorsement of the U.S.
Congress in the form of an introduction by Sen. Strom Thurmond, for whom Corso went to
work after retiring from the Army in 1963.
However, what it reveals about the mindsets of the people trying to deal with the
"alien problem" is perhaps more alarming than the existence and visitation of
the aliens themselves.
One of Corso's tasks in dealing with the alien artifacts was to draw up a "List of
Omissions" -- the things one might expect to find on the craft or in the bodies of
the aliens ("EBEs", or "extraterrestrial biological entities", to use
the official term) which were not found. Much has already been written about Corso's book,
so I will focus for much of this review on a list of omissions in this book.
First, Corso darkly hints of knowledge of the hostile intent of the aliens, beyond their
somewhat callous treatment of abductees and mutilations of cattle and other livestock. But
he never reveals what is his evidence for concluding that. Granted, some of the alien's
behavior could be considered somewhat hostile from a military viewpoint (such as violating
our airspace). He intimates that they are engaged in a program of colonization, perhaps
through infiltration.
Second, Corso reports on a great deal of information that he did not get first-hand,
without indicating how he learned it. He was only on the project for two years, from 1961
through 1963, but much of what he is reporting occurred after his retirement, when he
would no longer have a "need to know". Does he really know from reliable
sources, or is he merely passing on what is the latest phase in the "controlled
release" program?
Third, how was Corso allowed to publish a book like this? He is obviously a team player,
although he admits to violating the Internal Security Act by leaking information to
reporters about Soviet missiles being deployed in Cuba. Would he now be disclosing this
information without the knowledge and consent of the "working group"? It seems
unlikely, which raises questions about whether what he reveals is really on his own
initiative or just what the people authorizing it want the people to have at this phase in
the controlled release program, some of which may not be true.
This is not to say that this book does not have the ring of truth. It is far better done
than much of what comes out of the government. It also resembles the kind of thing the
reviewer has gotten from his own sources in the government over the last three decades.
One of the things that rings true is the extent and intensity of rivalry between agencies.
Corso depicts the CIA as a more serious threat than the Soviets ever were, and reports how
he devoted more effort to avoiding being spied on by our own intelligence services than by
the Russians.
He also makes it clear that, while there was real rivalry between the West and the Soviet
Union, the Cold War was mainly a cover for preparing to deal with the perceived threat
from the aliens, and for getting and keeping allied nations and the people on board to
support a military buildup that has always primarily been directed toward defense against
alien incursion.
Corso describes many of the technologies and products that he says are the direct result
of reverse-engineering alien artifacts: integrated circuits, lasers, optical fibers,
super-strong fabrics like Kevlar, stealth technology, EMP devices to disable electronics,
and directed energy weapons. He intimates that much of the work done on mind control
technologies was inspired by apparent alien use of such technologies to control their
craft and abducted humans, and is largely intended to develop countermeasures and to
control our own hardware.
Much of the book is devoted to describing the Strategic Defense Initiative and how it is
designed to defend against the aliens, more than against missiles from other human
nations.
He expresses complete confidence that it is an effective defense against them, which is
what I find disturbing about the military mindset it reveals. Considering that the aliens
continue to fly through our airspace undeterred, abducting humans and mutilating cattle at
what seems an increasing pace, the question arises as to whether he and the rest of the
people in government are not deluding themselves about the effectiveness of the defense
systems they have erected. One has to suspect that if it came to that, the aliens could
turn those defense systems off like a light bulb, as they are reported to have turned
other defense installations on and off at will, at one point taking a U.S. and Soviet
missile launch systems, one on each side, right up to the point of launch while
crew-persons frantically tried unsuccessfully to regain control and prevent a launch.
One has to suspect that the release of this information is intended to win support for the
SDI program, which is threatened by budget cutbacks.
Corso makes one technical error that indicates his weakness in dealing with this
situation. He attributes the temporary turning off of electrical equipment by aliens to an
ordinary EMP effect, where EMP stands for "electromagentic pulse". He claims we
have effectively hardened our critical military equipment against that. The problem is
that EMP causes electrical equipment to fail by overloading their circuits and damaging
them beyond repair, and that is not the effect that has been reported by witnesses in the
proximity to alien craft.
What they report is more of a temporary dampening field, which causes no electrical
discharges or does any permanent damage. That is more the kind of thing one might expect
to be the result of a space-time distortion field, of the kind we expect to be associated
with something like an Alcubierre Warp Drive, than a side effect of a Townsend Brown type
of anti-gravity drive. If so, the hardening of systems against EMP would have little
protective value.
It is worthwhile to summarize some of the things he confirms:
- The earth is being visited and observed by aliens flying UFOs.
- There have been multiple crashes of UFOs, recoveries of them, and recoveries of their
alien crewmembers, including the crash near Roswell in 1947.
- A new revelation is that one of the Roswell aliens was shot and killed by a soldier, who
thought it was trying to flee.
- The original crash near Roswell was apparently the result of damage to the craft by
lightning, which disrupted the anti-gravity effect it used.
- The alien craft recovered near Roswell had no facilities for rest, feeding, or waste
disposal, and no obvious power or propulsion system.
- The aliens were remarkably similar to human beings in their anatomy, but lacked
digestive or excretory organs. Corso is of the opinion that the "greys" are
synthetic beings, like androids, designed for performing the missions of the UFOs, but
lacking true independence of will or purpose.
- The U.S. government has been in contact with the aliens, and has negotiated an
agreement with them which he describes as a kind of temporary surrender.
- Alien artifacts have been reverse-engineered to some degree, and some of the results fed
to companies which have developed products based on it.
- The original ARPANET, which evolved into the Internet, was largely driven by the need to
coordinate a response to the "alien problem", and to develop a communications
system that would be difficult for the aliens to interdict.
- The original "working group" was composed of the same persons listed in the
"Majestic12" documentation, although Corso did not confirm that "Majestic
12" was the name of the group, or what the present name might be. He simply refers to
it as the "working group", and apparently everyone knows what that is, if not
who composes it.
- The "working group" put in charge of dealing with the "alien
problem" continues, and functions as a kind of secret government, perhaps more
powerful than the President. Corso intimates that not all Presidents have been told about
the aliens.
- The nations of the Earth are cooperating with the U.S. in dealing with the "alien
problem",
and this cooperation dominates international relations on several levels.
- The "Cold War" was ended by Reagan and Gorbachev in response to what was
perceived as an alien threat. The "New World Order" should be taken as this new
system of cooperation, from the viewpoint of the people working on the "alien
problem", although Corso does not use that term, and seems opposed to the
unconstitutional form it is taking.
- The real Cold War, against the aliens, continues, with the Space Defense Initiative
being one of its principle activities. This is the main reason for continued high defense
expenditures, the excuse for defense against "terrorism", and other programs of
increased militarization of society.
- Elements within and without the official governments of the Earth have an agenda to
establish a de facto world government, mainly to defend against the aliens, but one which
would establish an oligarchy centered on those charged with the defense. The CIA seems to
be one of the main concentrations for the implementation of this agenda.
- The propulsion, power source, and control systems of the alien craft have not yet been
successfully reverse-engineered. (But this may be disinformation.)
- The aliens are responsible for most of the animal mutilations.
- The aliens are abducting people and conducting experiments on them, with the apparent
purpose of developing a new, hybrid species.
- Many people in government and the private sector are aware of all these things, but are
afraid to discuss them openly, something with which Corso seems to partially disagree
with.
- Officials have threatened people to get them to keep silent, and may have killed people
to do that.
- People in government seem inordinately afraid of public reaction to disclosure, to the
extent that it is impairing their ability to conduct an effective defense. Secrecy has
made it difficult for the "working group" to effectively coordinate a program of
response among rival government agencies and national governments, resulting in many of
them taking their own initiatives and going off in divergent and conflicting directions.
- Much if not most of the information about aliens and UFOs that has come out, including
perhaps much of the coverage by the entertainment media, is part of a more or less
centrally orchestrated program of controlled conditioning of the population in preparation
of eventual disclosure, but there is internal controversy about how much and how fast to
proceed in this program, and when to complete the disclosure.
- Following WWII, the military continued to monitor all electronic communications of the
population, contrary to law. He says the monitoring by the military ended during the Ford
Administration, but not that some other agency did not take it over. There is other
evidence, not mentioned by Corso, that the NSA took over that operation and that it
continues to this day.
- The Kennedy Administration, led by the CIA, was prepared to allow the Soviets to deploy
nuclear missiles in Cuba, until Corso took the initiative to leak the information to a few
trusted journalists, forcing Kennedy to confront the situation in the Cuban Missile
Crisis.
- Corso seems to think that Kennedy was assassinated by a conspiracy of elements within
the U.S. government, but he does not offer any evidence to confirm this. He worked on the
staff of the Warren Commission, under Sen. Richard Russell, so he seems to have some basis
for thinking that.
Apparently the operations of the Army Foreign Technology Division was a comparatively
minor effort, although one which has had perhaps the greatest benefit to the public in the
form of commercial products.
One has to wonder if this is the first of several such revelatory books by key figures in
other government agencies. A lot of people are waiting.
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CNI NEWS INTERVIEWS
COLONEL PHILIP CORSO
by Michael Lindemann, CNI News
From the moment he arrived in Roswell, New Mexico last week, Colonel Philip Corso was in
constant demand for press interviews. Despite his advanced age, Corso was energetic, lucid
and very generous with his time. CNI News editor Michael Lindemann was fortunate to be
invited to privately interview the Colonel in his hotel room on Saturday morning, July 5.
Also present were the Colonel's son, Philip Jr., and William Birnes, co-author with
Colonel Corso of the bombshell book, "The Day After Roswell."
In the book, Corso says that a genuine alien spacecraft, with bodies, was recovered near
Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. He says he personally viewed one of the dead alien bodies.
More importantly, he says that during the early 1960s, he was stationed at the Pentagon
under the command of General Arthur Trudeau, and was assigned the super-secret task of
parceling pieces of alien spacecraft wreckage out to various defense-related companies who
could back engineer the alien material into useful human technology. From this program,
Corso says, sprang such strategically important developments as the integrated
circuit for computers, fiber optics, advanced night vision technology and lasers.
Lindemann arrived at Corso's room as a previous interview was concluding. The Colonel and
Mr. Birnes were explaining how Corso had arranged for the safe passage of 10,000 Jewish
refugees out of Rome to Palestine just after the end of World War II. Lindemann picked up
on this theme to start the CNI News interview.
ML = Michael Lindemann
PC = Phil Corso
BB = Bill Birnes
ML: Not only are you a highly decorated military officer, but it seems you've always been
willing to be a bit of a maverick when it comes to "doing the right thing," even
if it might make some other people uncomfortable -- to the point where this latest
disclosure about Roswell seems essentially in character for you. But this is a bigger
disclosure, a bigger departure from the norm than your previous actions, don't you think?
PC: Well, some other things have been pretty important. Like when I moved those 10,000
Jews, I thought nothing of it, but people said what a big thing it was. Putting Rome back
on its feet was important. I don't think this is bigger than some of those things. Even
the looks on the families' faces in front of Congress [when he testified about American
POWs left in North Korea], that was pretty important to those people. And this one here, I
think, fits in with all those others. Yes, it's important, because like they say, it might
have changed the course of the world. Well, I have to give a lot of credit to General
Trudeau, who made it
possible, and to the other people who were with me. Maybe we changed the course of the
world. The thing that I've done now is going to affect the future. That's why I bring the
children in on it, the young ones. We're old now, we're going to be moving on. But they're
going to be here. Let them know what happened. I think it's of great importance that those
children are going to read this and know what happened and what it came from, and that it
was true. It did happen. They have to know what's involved, and what it's leading to.
They're the ones who will be involved in what it leads to. From that point of view, it's
the
most important thing I ever did.
ML: Where do you think it does lead to? You allude in your book to the possibility that
maybe there's a hostile potential here.
PC: When you're in the military, you always have to figure on that hostile part. You can't
disregard that. Our motto was, "Just in case, we're going to be ready." What's
it going to be in the future? We called it at R&D [the Army's Research and Development
Department at the Pentagon] the dawn of a new age, maybe a new world. The world's not
going to stop. Maybe this was a seed that was sown to start a new world. Look what they
did with the [computer] chip -- in just a few years, how it blossomed out into the
supercomputer. I said to General Trudeau, "What are we unleashing on the world,
General? If this can integrate
with the brain, there's great danger." He said, "Yes, Phil, but the people
coming after us, we hope, will possibly understand and take this into consideration. But
maybe not in our lifetime." He didn't see it in his lifetime. He died three years
ago.
ML: Do we know how to build the kind of craft that they found at Roswell?
PC: I think that we will know. Where we were missing out on a lot of this was in the
propulsion and guidance systems. We came to the conclusion years ago, and now it's
starting to take hold even among scientists, that the reason we missed out on this was
that the extraterrestrial himself was the guidance system. He was part of the system. We
never figured on that.
One day I was walking in the hall with General Trudeau, and I turned to him and said,
"General, I think that son of mine is a little bit crazy. He says engines talk to
him." The General turned to me and said, "Phil, don't ever say that again.
People have certain relationships with engines, with solid matter, that we don't
understand. But it's there." See, this is all starting to come forward now.
And it was uncanny that this book had to break when this thing is happening here at
Roswell. I never expected what I saw last night, what I've seen here. [From the time he
arrived in Roswell, Colonel Corso was surrounded by press and people seeking interviews.]
Someone like me has always lived in the shadows. To all at once see this happening around
me, and I'm a focal point -- I feel like I should be home sitting in my easy chair, not
here. And yet, last night [at the Friday evening banquet] I was almost mobbed.
ML: Did you know that the American public was this hungry for this information, and this
ready to believe you?
PC: Sure I knew. My nephew is a research director at [inaudible] university, and I have
letters the young man wrote to me. He said, "Uncle Phil, please tell them to tell us
the truth. We won't pull our hair out or panic. We want to hear this." In all of my
interviews lately, I've been saying I'm going to prove this to you people. My own
experience: I commanded a battalion of 1500 men. Average age, nineteen and a half years
old. Those boys didn't panic and run. I told my exec[utive officer]: "My God, we're
leading babies into
combat." They didn't panic. They stood and fought some of the greatest armies the
world has ever seen, and defeated them. A lot of them died. But they didn't run, they
fought. So I say, this is the younger-age people -- they're not going to panic. Let them
know. They want to know. That Orson Welles show [War of the Worlds, 1938] has thrown a lot
of people off. It's not going to be like that.
ML: Do you feel we are ready to know the truth on this?
PC: We've been ready. A long time ago.
ML: Did you have to willfully break any personal oaths or promises to the military or the
country in order to do what you've done?
PC: No. The oath that I held was with the General. I held that oath until he died, because
he was an honorable man, an honest man. I liked him. He was a great man. As far as being
an Army officer, I kept my oath for thirty-five years. I did not violate any security, and
I had all the clearances. I was the one who used to stop people from violating security. I
did not reveal anything that's harmful or should be kept quiet.
ML: There have been rumors and speculations that Roswell, and what came from Roswell --
the way we exploited Roswell technology -- might not have been the very first time such a
thing happened. There have even been indications or speculations that the Nazis had done
such a thing, that some of their extraordinary technological developments may have come
from a similar source. What do you think about that?
PC: Yes. True. I had German scientists on my team. I discussed this with them. I discussed
this with Oberth, von Braun. I was part of "Project Paperclip" with General
Trudeau.
There's an example in the book. In the middle of the book there's a photograph of Edward
O'Connor, one of Truman's poker- playing buddies at the White House -- he was a Soviet
expert -- and General Trudeau, myself and Victor Fediay of the Library of Congress, who
spoke fluent Russian. Fediay was going to Russia. I gave him a series of questions. I
said, "Ask a KGB general these questions [pertaining to UFOs]." So Victor comes
back and says, "Phil, I asked him the questions. You know what he said? He said, 'I
know what you want. But do you want me killed?'"
Now, that's Russia. Germany? Yes. Canadians and British also, and something in Italy.
There were crashes elsewhere, and they gathered material too. The Germans were working on
it. They didn't solve the propulsion system. They did a lot of experiments on flying
saucers. They had one that went up 12,000 feet. But where all, we and they, missed out was
on the guidance system. In R&D we began to realize that this being was part of the
guidance system, part of the apparatus himself -- or itself, because it had no sexual
organs. This is where most people missed out.
ML: Do you think, then, that if we are going to develop a way of interstellar travel, we
will have to develop a similar relationship to our spacecraft?
PC: Man can't travel in space today. Those clones were created to travel in space,
specifically. They can travel in space. Our muscles, our bones, our brain, can't take
space travel, even today. We can't do it.
ML: We can do it to some extent.
PC: Well, when they go to Mir, they stay up there two or three months, and when they come
off, they have to be carried off. Their bones won't hold up. If they stayed a little
longer, they'll never be able to walk. But the big thing that is not talked about is
[that] the brain is affected up there.
ML: How is that?
PC: Gravity, radiation -- it comes right through that ship. Look at Senator [John] Glenn,
he saw "fireflies" coming through his capsule. They weren't fireflies, they were
some kind of electromagnetic thing that came through there. Those [alien] beings are
created specifically to travel in space.
ML: Speaking of Senator Glenn, my understanding is that he's sort of ambivalent on the
subject of UFOs. How would you characterize it?
PC: He told me exactly what he was. I met with Senator Glenn. I was supposed to meet him
for half an hour, and he kept me for an hour and a half. During the course of the
conversation, we talked about UFOs, and he said, "Colonel, I'm an agnostic." I
said, "But you didn't say you don't believe," and he laughed. That's his exact
word to me -- he's agnostic. Then we got into Project Horizon. I had the whole project
[document], 310 pages, and he wanted it. I had to give it to him. He was amazed when he
saw that [in] 1959, long before he went up in the capsule, we had all the plans made up to
put a military colony on the moon.
Defense killed it on us. They didn't like the Army, so they took it away from us and
killed it, and made NASA.
ML: Is it possible for any civilian to get their hands on the Project Horizon report
today? How do we find out about this?
PC: It's unclassified. I was the declassifying officer. There's 50 pages of it in [my]
book. I wrote to the Army Corps of Engineers historical division, and I told them where it
was and what it was, and they found it and sent me copies of it immediately. The original
was in color. Beautiful. I'd like to get my hands on it. [Corso pages through Appendix One
of his book as he speaks.] Look, there's a lunar lander. This was 1959. The best brains in
the world worked on this, all the Germans, all von Braun's team, they worked on this. I
talked to a German in Huntsville, Alabama, a few months ago, and he said, "I remember
that. I
worked on it." This was an amazing document. And here's General Trudeau's
instructions that started it. Lately, my scientist friend at the Institute of Advanced
Studies in Texas had a meeting with the top [scientists] at NASA, and he threw Project
Horizon on the table, and he says they were shocked. They couldn't believe it. They never
knew about it. Defense killed it on us; and the CIA had a hand in killing it.
ML: Just the other day, the Air Force issued their latest official explanation of what
happened at Roswell. I'm sure you must have had a few chuckles over it. How are you
responding to this? And how is the press treating you, now that you've made your position
so clear and now that the Air Force has said, again, that it's all a bunch of baloney?
PC: They're treating me better than I ever expected. I expected criticism. As far as the
Air Force, I fought alongside them in Korea. I have a lot of friends in the Air Force, and
I will not criticize a sister service. But I will criticize their superiors, the Secretary
of the Air Force and so forth. It amazes me and I cannot comprehend why they do this. They
don't have to do this. Why do they want themselves to look like fools? Even the young kids
are telling me, "Dummies? Dummies?" and then they laugh. I can't comprehend why
they put that out. What is in their mind? If I'd have written something like that, General
Trudeau would have thrown me out of the top window of the Pentagon.
ML: What about the problem with Senator Strom Thurmond's foreword to your book? Simon and
Schuster has issued a bland apology, saying they're going to pull Thurmond's foreword out
of future printings of the book. What was your understanding with the Senator?
PC: I've known Strom Thurmond for almost a lifetime. He's a very honest, sincere and
courageous individual. We've alway been close. I found out recently that his staff did it.
I don't think the old man knew it, and I think the old man will eventually call me. We
were too close for too many years. I sent the original foreword for the other book
[Thurmond had written a foreword for a book titled "I Walked With Giants"] back
to the Senator, and I told him, "If you want to send me another statement for this
new book, that's fine. If you don't want to, that's fine too." I discussed UFOs with
him. I gave him a copy of Project
Horizon. About a week later, not only did I get the two pages that are in the book, but I
also got a note from him authorizing Simon and Schuster to print it. Bill Birnes has all
that. He has the original foreword -- the one I sent back -- and he has the new one.
ML: Bill Birnes told me when I arrived here today that he was under the impression that
Thurmond or perhaps his staff had been pressured from higher up to back out of this. Can
you say anything about this?
[Colonel Corso's son, present during the whole interview, made very visible hand signals
to the Colonel at this point indicating that the Colonel should not answer this question.]
PC: I can't verify that one way or another.
ML: Forgive me, Colonel, if I ask Mr. Birnes to say something about this. [Birnes was in
the room embroiled in a side conversation at this time.] Bill, the Colonel has just
declined to address the question whether or not Senator Thurmond or his staff may have
been pressured from higher up. You indicated that he might have been. Can you explain?
BB: This is just my understanding of it from stories I heard. The staff really wasn't
aware of the agreement that Colonel Corso and the Senator had. It was an agreement between
two friends, more than two business associates. The staff went ballistic when they found
out. In other words, "How dare you do something and not consult your staff about what
you're writing?" So the staff's immediate preliminary reaction was, "Oh no, this
was the foreword for the book 'I Walked With Giants.'" What the staff didn't know was
that Colonel Corso had sent that first foreword back to the Senator and got a new foreword
in return. I have copies of both. So, obviously, they weren't in the loop. When they were
told
that this is a new foreword the Senator wrote, the story immediately changed. "Well,
we weren't told, and we can't do this."
Finally, one of the staff members said, "Don't you understand that the Senator cannot
be on a book cover, writing a foreword, for a book that says the United States government
utilized alien technology to win the Cold War? Don't you realize this man is fourth in
line to succeed the president? Don't you know this man is chairman of the Armed Services
Committee? NO, it can't be." So they went to Simon and Schuster and said, "You
have to pull the cover. Take it off the shelves, get the foreword out, write a new
cover." Simon and Schuster said absolutely not. Then they made it very clear to Simon
and Schuster, saying,
"You're part of a large conglomerate. Your large conglomerate has to deal with
government regulatory bodies. Do you really want to be in this position? Viacom goes
before the FCC. You have a constituency of stockholders that you have to respond to.
ML: You're suggesting political blackmail.
BB: It's absolutely political blackmail.
ML: Can you verify that this is what was going on?
BB: I have to say that this is my understanding of what was going on because of
confidential discussions I had with legal [personnel] at Simon and Schuster, and from
statements that the staff members made to the Corso family with respect to the pressure
that was being put on them to get this foreword out of the book. What I do know for a fact
is that they demanded that Simon and Schuster pull the book off the shelves. Simon and
Schuster flatly refused and said they had a signed release. Then [the Senator's staff]
came back and said, "As a matter of courtesy, if we say that the Senator really
wasn't clear on the nature of the book..." and Simon and Schuster said, "Well,
if it's a matter of courtesy,
then we can certainly understand that in the heat of material passing back and forth,
misunderstandings can happen." So, that was the basic agreement.
ML: So, once they got the niceties of language straightened out, the agreement was that
the foreword would be pulled from future printings of the book?
BB: Yes, exactly. But it will remain as it is, with this cover, for this printing.
ML: Cutting to other news, there was a story that broke here yesterday morning [Friday,
July 4] about an object that had been tested by several scientists. Its content was almost
entirely pure silicon, with small traces of metals such as germanium and zinc. This sounds
suspiciously like some kind of solid state artifact, and it showed such highly anomalous
isotopic ratios that a scientist was willing to say on the record that it had the
appearance of extraterrestrial manufacture. Can this be compared with anything you saw at
the Pentagon,
Colonel?
PC: I don't know anything about it. It doesn't even sound similar to me.
ML: According to your book, you spent most of your time dealing with the artifacts and
debris of the Roswell incident, but what about the aliens involved, and more especially,
what about the alien situation today? What do you think is the nature of the alien
presence, if any, on earth today?
PC: From my knowledge, at the moment, I don't know of any alien presence on earth. There
are still reports of flying saucers, of course, but I don't know of any report of a body,
or anyone who has seen [an alien] lately.
ML: What do you say about people such as abductees who claim to be actually seeing these
creatures?
PC: My reports were thirty-five years ago. If there's anything now, I'm not aware of it. I
know just what I saw in those days, and the truth like I lived it. If there's any aliens
now, I'd like to see them. I don't know where they are. I'd like to see if they compare
with the ones that I saw. |
